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	<title>Comments on: To Sin or Not to Sin, is it even possible?</title>
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		<title>By: Veronica W.</title>
		<link>http://wordslessspoken.com/2007/09/17/to-sin-or-not-to-sin-is-it-even-possible/#comment-1465</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Veronica W.]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 17 Mar 2008 21:27:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&quot;When injury is done to another, the real consequence is that the whole of life is somehow diminished and robbed of joy, not that someone will burn in hellfire for all time.&quot;

I think this is correct. However, it is still healthy to own up to what you did as bad, or wrong, or immoral, or whatever fancy word you currently hold for not good and say sorry. We all mess up and unless it is a complete accident we must recognize ourself in error. 

Christians are lucky to have a nice, neat little list of what is bad. To some people it isn&#039;t automatic knowledge that sleeping around is unwise, or even that not cooking your food before eating it is unwise (the Jews had holy writ to tell them not to eat meat with blood or fat in it--which ended up saving some of them from heart disease no doubt). 

We all make our lists of bad and good things, or wise and unwise things. Atheists are the same as Christians on that front. Both sides concentrate on the goodness of man (there are many humanistic Christians, ever since the enlightenment--and many humanistic Jews as well--I&#039;d say the whole deprivation thing was Augustine&#039;s fault). But by what standard does an atheist define the list of right and wrong actions? Simply by the consequences of the actions? As our knowledge increases it becomes easier to see all the consequences and to make a list of unwise and wise actions--but these ancient religions still offer amazing clarity in the realm of morality. And our scientific/psychological knowledge is still limited. 

Everyone admits that people aren&#039;t perfect--might as well have a balanced focus between our &quot;incredible potential&quot; and our often mistake-ridden reality.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;When injury is done to another, the real consequence is that the whole of life is somehow diminished and robbed of joy, not that someone will burn in hellfire for all time.&#8221;</p>
<p>I think this is correct. However, it is still healthy to own up to what you did as bad, or wrong, or immoral, or whatever fancy word you currently hold for not good and say sorry. We all mess up and unless it is a complete accident we must recognize ourself in error. </p>
<p>Christians are lucky to have a nice, neat little list of what is bad. To some people it isn&#8217;t automatic knowledge that sleeping around is unwise, or even that not cooking your food before eating it is unwise (the Jews had holy writ to tell them not to eat meat with blood or fat in it&#8211;which ended up saving some of them from heart disease no doubt). </p>
<p>We all make our lists of bad and good things, or wise and unwise things. Atheists are the same as Christians on that front. Both sides concentrate on the goodness of man (there are many humanistic Christians, ever since the enlightenment&#8211;and many humanistic Jews as well&#8211;I&#8217;d say the whole deprivation thing was Augustine&#8217;s fault). But by what standard does an atheist define the list of right and wrong actions? Simply by the consequences of the actions? As our knowledge increases it becomes easier to see all the consequences and to make a list of unwise and wise actions&#8211;but these ancient religions still offer amazing clarity in the realm of morality. And our scientific/psychological knowledge is still limited. </p>
<p>Everyone admits that people aren&#8217;t perfect&#8211;might as well have a balanced focus between our &#8220;incredible potential&#8221; and our often mistake-ridden reality.</p>
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		<title>By: Living without judgement &#171; Words Less Spoken</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Living without judgement &#171; Words Less Spoken]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 11 Mar 2008 13:44:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[[...] reality, did I begin to find the kind of freedom that the church had been selling for years. (see To Sin or Not to Sin, Is It Even Possible?) Ironically, I was listening to a Michael Tolcher song this morning, &#8220;Sooner or Later,&#8221; [...]]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] reality, did I begin to find the kind of freedom that the church had been selling for years. (see To Sin or Not to Sin, Is It Even Possible?) Ironically, I was listening to a Michael Tolcher song this morning, &#8220;Sooner or Later,&#8221; [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Jon F</title>
		<link>http://wordslessspoken.com/2007/09/17/to-sin-or-not-to-sin-is-it-even-possible/#comment-600</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Jon F]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 18 Sep 2007 07:59:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Even though I am thinking along the same lines as you, it still astonishes me to see you actually write &quot;can we sin ... no&quot; I am just like the blind kitten you describe, struggling like crazy at the ripe old age of 40 to try and claw back a bit of vision! I have been probing the same &lt;a href=&quot;http://jonfeatherstone.wordpress.com/2007/09/17/the-right-and-wrong-that-is-not/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;question &lt;/a&gt; and to remove the sin/not sin right/wrong aspect of our model of God and Man radically changes everyhting! but also renders (with my severly impaired vision) such a model incompatible with any biblical/christian view. 
Jon]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Even though I am thinking along the same lines as you, it still astonishes me to see you actually write &#8220;can we sin &#8230; no&#8221; I am just like the blind kitten you describe, struggling like crazy at the ripe old age of 40 to try and claw back a bit of vision! I have been probing the same <a href="http://jonfeatherstone.wordpress.com/2007/09/17/the-right-and-wrong-that-is-not/" rel="nofollow">question </a> and to remove the sin/not sin right/wrong aspect of our model of God and Man radically changes everyhting! but also renders (with my severly impaired vision) such a model incompatible with any biblical/christian view.<br />
Jon</p>
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